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<p>[QUOTE="Echo, post: 31412245, member: 39541"]</p><p>Laitetaas nyt sit vielä katolinen musta messu. Vaikka on vuosikymmeniä vanhaa juttua niin silti mielenkiintoista.</p><p>Yllättäen mm.Bush vanhempi on osallistunut siihen, Bushit ne ehtii häistä läksiäisiin...</p><p></p><p>Mustasta messusta kertoo katolisen allianssin johtaja, satanisti Massimo Introvigne, joka osallistui messuun Torinossa. Mukana korkea-arvoisem jesuiittapapin, Malachi Martinin kertomusta.</p><p></p><p>Further, <a href="http://www.kelebekler.com/cesnur/storia/gb00.htm"><strong>Massimo Introvigne</strong> of Italy</a>, a known <em>Vatican agent and satanist</em> said in an interview with <strong>Maria Grazia</strong> of <em>Epoca Magazine</em> that he attended a Black Mass in a Church of Satan in Turin.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is a portion of the interview:</p><p></p><p>EPOCA: Mr. Introvigne, how did you succeed in overcoming the mistrust of the people from Turin?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: I’ve frequented cult circles for years. I found my Satanist contacts among people practicing sex magic. Although I’m a Catholic, I enjoy a good reputation. It was they who sought me out. At times, we met in neutral territories; then they allowed me to attend their rites.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: Where did the rite take place?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: In a private apartment of the old part of town, probably used as a storehouse, with a room nearly ten meters long.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: How was the furniture?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: Essential. With no black painted walls, like you can see in the US or in other deserted Satanic chapels discovered also in Turin. Just an altar, at the center, with a dark pall, similar to those used for funerals. There was a statuette showing the devil with a erect fallus, at least 30 centimeter long... A lot of devil shaped red candles, a “hand of glory” and a presumably human skull.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: Who attended the mass?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: There were about twenty people, all standing. On average, they were quite young, 30 years or more, I guess. There were a few women: not more than seven or eight. They all wore normal clothes, except the celebrant who was black dressed, with a mantle reaching his feet and a hood on his shoulders.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: How was the rite held?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: It started by invoking Satan, in a shaky Latin, according to the classic liturgy which turns the Catholic liturgy upside down. The faithful replied to the texts by heart. There was a sequel of ritual acts such as: lighting candles, Satanic spells, manipulation of objects, which lasted about twenty minutes. Then a priestess came in.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: What do you mean?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: In Satanic rites a woman, a virgin is much better, acting as an “altar” is essential. In the US I’ve seen wooden supports anatomically shaped so as to host the priestess in a laid down position. In Italy it’s usually an uncomfortable table. That’s why, I guess, the woman came in after the rite had already started.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: How old did she appear to be?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: I don’t think she was a chaste young woman. She was 40, more or less, good looking, but really embarrassed. May be, it was her first experience in this field. Again, in America I’ve seen naked women moving with extreme naturalness. Not in this case. She entered covered with a bathrobe. She took it off and stretched out on the altar.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: What happened then?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: The “priest” carried out the rite with the deconsecration of <em>the Host</em> (they assured me it wasn’t a stolen host). He put it on the woman’s body and then he quickly, quite in a furtive manner, dipped it in her vagina. Then he raised the chalice. The elixir, a mixture of sperm and vaginal secretions which serves for giving immortality and creating the “body of glory”, had been prepared in advance and was ready.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: Did any copulation take place?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: Yes it did, soon after. But it was quite short. It lasted a couple of minutes more or less. And it was just between the priest and the woman-altar. It was like if the act was mimed, unlike the ceremonies where I’ve seen celebrant and “altar” find pleasure while executing the rite, a rite where the faithful as well took part.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: What did the followers do meanwhile?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: They drank from the chalice. But they remained rigorously dressed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: Did they sing any hymn?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: No, they didn’t. They mumbled some invocations to the devil, while there was an atmosphere of strong emotional tension. There were neither songs, nor musical instruments, unlike the US where you can often hear a pianola accompaniment.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EPOCA: In what manner did the ceremony end?</p><p>INTROVIGNE: The priest blessed the faithful using a liquid which I guess was water. Manuals talk about urine... and it should be the woman-altar who produces it. But I don’t definitely believe that the lady from Turin, who was already really embarrassed, could be willing to be of any help.</p><p></p><p>Besides the above accounts, former Jesuit priests <strong><a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_vatican.htm#Malachi_Martin">Malachi Martin</a></strong> and <strong>Alberto Rivero</strong> told Americans how they attended <em>Black Masses</em> before they left the Order.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In a web site called <em>puritans.net</em>, they gave a short synopsis of what the two priests said:</p><p></p><p><u>Malachi Martin</u> documents that a Black Mass was held in St Paul’s Cathedral in 1963. During this heinous affair, several cardinals “installed Lucifer to his appropriate place” in the Vatican, as “head of the church.”</p><p></p><p></p><p>Martin claims that a good deal of the child molestation occurring now is actually Satanic worship. Part of the Luciferian rites of many of the priests, nuns, and hierarchy. He intimates that many who engage in this kind of “worship” are indeed secret Masons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Malachi Martin was himself a Jesuit priest, in a high official capacity in the Vatican. “In <em>God</em>’s Name” has a photograph of Malachi Martin, seated right next to Pope John Paul I - the Pope that was murdered. Martin is seated between Pope John Paul I (who is on the Papal Throne) and Diego Lorenzi, an aide who accompanied John Paul I from Venice, where he was previously.</p><p></p><p></p><p><u>Alberto Rivera</u> also says that he attended, as a Jesuit, a Black Mass in the Vatican. With the Jesuits. Martin himself did not attend the Black Mass, but he knew of it. He later resigned the Jesuits - around 1972.He was “Laicized” so that he could write books on the corruptions he had seen in the Vatican.</p><p></p><p></p><p>He recently passed away in 1999. Some Catholics think he was murdered. He also wrote a blockbuster entitled “<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jesuits-Society-Betrayal-Catholic-Church/dp/B000OB8F8Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220736087&sr=8-1">The Jesuits: The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church</a>.” In that book, he details how the Jesuits became Communists in the 1960’s, under their then Secretary General, Pedro Arrupe. And he documents how they fomented Communist revolutions in several countries—especially in Latin American and Africa.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Echo, post: 31412245, member: 39541"] Laitetaas nyt sit vielä katolinen musta messu. Vaikka on vuosikymmeniä vanhaa juttua niin silti mielenkiintoista. Yllättäen mm.Bush vanhempi on osallistunut siihen, Bushit ne ehtii häistä läksiäisiin... Mustasta messusta kertoo katolisen allianssin johtaja, satanisti Massimo Introvigne, joka osallistui messuun Torinossa. Mukana korkea-arvoisem jesuiittapapin, Malachi Martinin kertomusta. Further, [URL='http://www.kelebekler.com/cesnur/storia/gb00.htm'][B]Massimo Introvigne[/B] of Italy[/URL], a known [I]Vatican agent and satanist[/I] said in an interview with [B]Maria Grazia[/B] of [I]Epoca Magazine[/I] that he attended a Black Mass in a Church of Satan in Turin. Here is a portion of the interview: EPOCA: Mr. Introvigne, how did you succeed in overcoming the mistrust of the people from Turin? INTROVIGNE: I’ve frequented cult circles for years. I found my Satanist contacts among people practicing sex magic. Although I’m a Catholic, I enjoy a good reputation. It was they who sought me out. At times, we met in neutral territories; then they allowed me to attend their rites. EPOCA: Where did the rite take place? INTROVIGNE: In a private apartment of the old part of town, probably used as a storehouse, with a room nearly ten meters long. EPOCA: How was the furniture? INTROVIGNE: Essential. With no black painted walls, like you can see in the US or in other deserted Satanic chapels discovered also in Turin. Just an altar, at the center, with a dark pall, similar to those used for funerals. There was a statuette showing the devil with a erect fallus, at least 30 centimeter long... A lot of devil shaped red candles, a “hand of glory” and a presumably human skull. EPOCA: Who attended the mass? INTROVIGNE: There were about twenty people, all standing. On average, they were quite young, 30 years or more, I guess. There were a few women: not more than seven or eight. They all wore normal clothes, except the celebrant who was black dressed, with a mantle reaching his feet and a hood on his shoulders. EPOCA: How was the rite held? INTROVIGNE: It started by invoking Satan, in a shaky Latin, according to the classic liturgy which turns the Catholic liturgy upside down. The faithful replied to the texts by heart. There was a sequel of ritual acts such as: lighting candles, Satanic spells, manipulation of objects, which lasted about twenty minutes. Then a priestess came in. EPOCA: What do you mean? INTROVIGNE: In Satanic rites a woman, a virgin is much better, acting as an “altar” is essential. In the US I’ve seen wooden supports anatomically shaped so as to host the priestess in a laid down position. In Italy it’s usually an uncomfortable table. That’s why, I guess, the woman came in after the rite had already started. EPOCA: How old did she appear to be? INTROVIGNE: I don’t think she was a chaste young woman. She was 40, more or less, good looking, but really embarrassed. May be, it was her first experience in this field. Again, in America I’ve seen naked women moving with extreme naturalness. Not in this case. She entered covered with a bathrobe. She took it off and stretched out on the altar. EPOCA: What happened then? INTROVIGNE: The “priest” carried out the rite with the deconsecration of [I]the Host[/I] (they assured me it wasn’t a stolen host). He put it on the woman’s body and then he quickly, quite in a furtive manner, dipped it in her vagina. Then he raised the chalice. The elixir, a mixture of sperm and vaginal secretions which serves for giving immortality and creating the “body of glory”, had been prepared in advance and was ready. EPOCA: Did any copulation take place? INTROVIGNE: Yes it did, soon after. But it was quite short. It lasted a couple of minutes more or less. And it was just between the priest and the woman-altar. It was like if the act was mimed, unlike the ceremonies where I’ve seen celebrant and “altar” find pleasure while executing the rite, a rite where the faithful as well took part. EPOCA: What did the followers do meanwhile? INTROVIGNE: They drank from the chalice. But they remained rigorously dressed. EPOCA: Did they sing any hymn? INTROVIGNE: No, they didn’t. They mumbled some invocations to the devil, while there was an atmosphere of strong emotional tension. There were neither songs, nor musical instruments, unlike the US where you can often hear a pianola accompaniment. EPOCA: In what manner did the ceremony end? INTROVIGNE: The priest blessed the faithful using a liquid which I guess was water. Manuals talk about urine... and it should be the woman-altar who produces it. But I don’t definitely believe that the lady from Turin, who was already really embarrassed, could be willing to be of any help. Besides the above accounts, former Jesuit priests [B][URL='http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_vatican.htm#Malachi_Martin']Malachi Martin[/URL][/B] and [B]Alberto Rivero[/B] told Americans how they attended [I]Black Masses[/I] before they left the Order. In a web site called [I]puritans.net[/I], they gave a short synopsis of what the two priests said: [U]Malachi Martin[/U] documents that a Black Mass was held in St Paul’s Cathedral in 1963. During this heinous affair, several cardinals “installed Lucifer to his appropriate place” in the Vatican, as “head of the church.” Martin claims that a good deal of the child molestation occurring now is actually Satanic worship. Part of the Luciferian rites of many of the priests, nuns, and hierarchy. He intimates that many who engage in this kind of “worship” are indeed secret Masons. Malachi Martin was himself a Jesuit priest, in a high official capacity in the Vatican. “In [I]God[/I]’s Name” has a photograph of Malachi Martin, seated right next to Pope John Paul I - the Pope that was murdered. Martin is seated between Pope John Paul I (who is on the Papal Throne) and Diego Lorenzi, an aide who accompanied John Paul I from Venice, where he was previously. [U]Alberto Rivera[/U] also says that he attended, as a Jesuit, a Black Mass in the Vatican. With the Jesuits. Martin himself did not attend the Black Mass, but he knew of it. He later resigned the Jesuits - around 1972.He was “Laicized” so that he could write books on the corruptions he had seen in the Vatican. He recently passed away in 1999. Some Catholics think he was murdered. He also wrote a blockbuster entitled “[URL='http://www.amazon.com/Jesuits-Society-Betrayal-Catholic-Church/dp/B000OB8F8Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220736087&sr=8-1']The Jesuits: The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church[/URL].” In that book, he details how the Jesuits became Communists in the 1960’s, under their then Secretary General, Pedro Arrupe. And he documents how they fomented Communist revolutions in several countries—especially in Latin American and Africa. [/QUOTE]
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